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Ragnar STS
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2014.11.01 23:19:19 -
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Danger may be creeping up on capsuleers everywhere.
Many may remember years ago when it was made public knowledge that Amarr slavers were injecting minmatar slaves with Vitoc. This horrible viral agent was fatal unless regular injections of an antidote was given to counteract the chemicals created by infected cells. Many attempts at a permanent cure have been made including nanotechnology, anti-viral phages, and tribal shaman natural cures. Some planetside individuals and capsuleers have been found to have trace levels of infection showing non-lethal levels of Vitoc -- even though they were born free and never seen been abused in Amarr captivity.
It is thought that we have been exposed through pod goo of stolen/liberated Amarr ships that were then turned against the enemy.
It seems a unique problem is starting to occur. These freeborn people, myself included, are getting temporary sickness including hallucinations, liver failure, kidney failure, heart failure, muscular weakness, and seizures. These events are relatively short lived, but only occur after great levels of star travel. Gate to gate travel has not brought on vitoc sickness...only extended jump drive use.
Several capsuleers hallucinating while in control of massive capital fleets may be disastrous to both themselves and others. Imagine the fallout from not properly locking onto a cynosural field and instead winding up in a random piece of space with no systems in scan range? One could even end up accidented into the middle of a highsec system against CONCORD rules.
Since this is a sickness of the mind and body, could CONCORD really hold them accountable for their actions? Perhaps we need to do something about the initial cause of the delirium and reduce the ability to cover 100s of lightyears of space in a single day.
It is very sad that these restrictions might be placed on us. I find it fitting though that the Amarr Empire's greed, along with other supporting entities such as the Sansha and CVA will be to blame for this catastrophic blow to capsuleer freedom. Perhaps more free-minded peoples will join in arms against them to reduce the likelihood of further destruction to the entire human race. |
Ragnar STS
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2014.11.01 23:48:04 -
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@Diana Kim
Typical Amarr. You confuse the problem, the method, and the solution.
Vitoc Method is a way of controlling slaves.
Vitoxin is created by the vitoc virus; removing the need to semi-regular vitoxin injections.
Vitoxin Cure is not permanent; it is 'the antidote' for the vitoxin. It does nothing for the actual Vitoc virus.
The cycle of stupidity continues. You regularly inject your slaves to keep them loyal to you with no actual knowledge of what you're doing. People are just people. Regular, free, untampered people do not NEED injections daily to live.
Maybe had more intelligent minds ruled at the outset, Vitox never would have been invented. Imagine the creative, social, industrial, and commercial gains we could have by now if we weren't stuck fighting this ridiculous man made disease. Creating this cycle of death has now gotten out of your control and is infecting the rest of the populace.
@Jaret Victorian
I agree the relationship is strange between these revelations of disease from the doctors and the new destroyer class being showcased by the Amarr. |
Ragnar STS
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
65
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Posted - 2014.11.02 01:35:08 -
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I must say that, at first, it feels a little bit like when you first learn to jumpclone. The act of willfully taking your conciousness and zapping it over to another body is obviously a bit foreign. We all feel a bit woozy when our pods get popped and the emergency transfer happens too. You can't tell me you don't have a little bit of 'missed time' or 'lag' when you suffer an emergency transfer. There are already safeguards in place against repeated clone jumping, and most of avoid frequent death. Jumping along with the entire ship and your regular body is obviously not as dangerous or disorienting....but it does seem to be getting worse.
Can any other capital pilots confirm or deny feeling a little bit lightheaded during the last few months while jumping? Why just the other day Equinox Daedalus admitted to having a small (cough) case of erectile dysfunction after a jump marathon evacing assets from one of our advances. All the freedom fighters knew this to be a not often talked about side effect of Vitoxin buildup. Imagine the surprise of the Amarr holder to the realization that his own tools are beginning to have an effect on him. |
Ragnar STS
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
65
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Posted - 2014.11.02 06:45:44 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:
Ragnar, are you referring to the so-called 'Jump Fatigue' that has been making the rounds lately? I hear it has less to do with Vitoxin and more to do with the hardware of jump drives having compatibility issues with pod hardware resulting in the need of stronger, more frequent synapses to activate the jump drive module, causing serious mental fatigue.
I am. Though I don't think it is 'fatigue'. I think that is the white washed name they are giving it. When was the last time you hallucinated just because you were 'tired'. We've all heard of genetic engineered viruses and eugenics gone bad. Our scientists are not that well funded. I'm guessing others have had better luck proving this.
All I have is testing in a batch of pods showing strange incomplete segments of Vitoc virus. Rumors are spreading that is actually more like the 'weakened flu mist' and that it is live virus that has been weakened. It isn't completely infecting us....but it is changing our DNA and how we are reacting to jump mechanics or radiation.
For real guys....do you actually just have 'fatigue'? How about mild aches and pains everywhere that could be caused by liver or kidney malfunction. What about hallucinations? CVA fleets busily defending their space or moving assets report 'lack of interest' upon returning to their slave girls.
I don't think the official explanation quite fulfills all these scenarios. |
Ragnar STS
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
69
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Posted - 2014.11.02 21:16:07 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:In the interest of full disclosure, I do not use jump drives on my current stock of ships. This might change within the next few months, but at the moment I largely stick with jumpgates and wormholes.
No effects on non-jump travelers. Your 'testing' is about as useful as a gravity check on a hunk of veldspar. I don't even know why you waste the IGS time with your useless arguing. |
Ragnar STS
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
69
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Posted - 2014.11.03 05:26:58 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:And where's the papers? If you claim that Vitoxin remnants are the cause for Jump Fatigue, you need to provide the research papers that contain the experiment methods and the data!
I know of a historic and legendary country whose intelligence motto was thus:
"You can know a lot more than you can prove." |
Ragnar STS
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
70
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Posted - 2014.11.06 03:43:21 -
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Definitely true the Kim has no sense of humor. Only a compelling need to troll other noble capsuleers. I find this more interesting:
Andrea Cemenotar wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:
You heard the lady! Ship all the Fedo to her hangar!
I need to dissapoint you but as I'm from scientist family I'm not scientist myself - I'm military pilot.
I say we send her the Fedos anyway. Her 'military pilot' record consists of only 3 frigate losses 7 months ago. The most recent was a frig with 2 warp core stabs fitted and nothing else. I'm sure she would have fit more (stabs) but there were only two low slots available. Seems to me the more likely story is that she is a corporate or Amarr paid lobbyist in the government at best, or a misinformation agent sent by CONCORD/Amarr covert agencies.
Now that our freedom has been drastically reduced by these obscene changes to jump drive control systems I'm sure she will be taking a few weeks off to enjoy being patted on the back by her overlords. Several of my crew were injured when the agents came aboard to 'upgrade' my jump systems. CONCORD or Amarr or nothing....I feel my crew's blood is on this fake fighter's hands. Today her pen was mightier than the sword. Andrea Cemenotar's day will come. |
Ragnar STS
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
70
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Posted - 2014.11.06 13:35:32 -
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Andrea Cemenotar wrote:
and at the end - Major Cemenotar - unless you are close friend or family and you are neither - you are not allowed to miss my rank when refering to me.
I wasn't going to bring up the concept of rank. Generally one does treat foreign military members with the same level of respect as the equivalent local military rank.
I will say anything I like to you, you disgusting embarrassment to your uniform. Your pathetic combat record even includes your own overlords in the Amarr militia killing you once. Perhaps you did not respect their rank in a similar way that you ignored mine.
**** off desk jockey.
Valklear General Ragnar STS |
Ragnar STS
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
70
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Posted - 2014.11.07 03:32:23 -
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All of you twits are absolutely off topic and wasting the IGS time. Some of you may get paid per word, but the rest of us do not care. You are now arguing about nothing of consequence simply for the sake of arguing.
I, among many others probably, will not be attending the next several sessions of IGS simply because we've now seen how childish and petty the conversations are in this hall. This is one reason the pirate organizations operate with impunity in all areas of space without much meaningful resistance. |
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